American Intellectual Property Law Presidents and Executive Director Speak to Fairly Competing (Episode 18)

Episode 18 of Fairly Competing is out — just in time for some weekend listening!

For the American Intellectual Property Law Association’s 125th Anniversary, John and I (both former chairs of the AIPLA Trade Secret Law Committee) and Ben (the current chair) went on the road to talk to the current AIPLA President, Brian Batzli, immediate past-President, Patrick Coyne, and Executive Director, Vince Garlock, at this year’s AIPLA Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C. We caught up about their experience with the AIPLA and the AIPLA’s Trade Secret Law Committee, and the importance of trade secret law more generally and its place with other forms of intellectual property. Enjoy the conversation!

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*Thank you again to Erika Hahn for the intro and outro voice over, Tyler Beck for the music, and mohamed_hassan for the base image.